Wednesday, 2021-02-10

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jxj-openwifi[m]https://www.pixilica.com/graphics13:02
lkcljxj-openwifi[m], yes - we know Atif Zazar.  i've been in contact with him on and off15:11
lkclvery interesting, very intelligent guy15:11
awyglelkcl: i agree to the charter18:28
lkclawygle: i've added you to a stack of repos, including https://git.libre-soc.org/?p=nmigen.git;a=summary19:56
lkclfeel free to do what you like, do however push/maintain suitable tag/branch(es) there19:58
lkclthere's more budget available for e.g. Formal Correctness Proofs, that budget of EUR 1250 is just for the implementation-side20:02
lkcland there's *another* budget for documentation.  it's a bit piecemeal, we had to shoe-horn things in across different NLnet 50,000 budgets20:02
lkclhttps://bugs.libre-soc.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45820:02
awyglecan you link the bugs which track those other budget elements?20:05
awyglespecifically documentation20:05
lkcli'll have to make them20:16
lkclthe formal proofs one(s) can be large(r) we've plenty available there20:16
lkclmy feeling is for m.If/Else/Switch it reaaally needs formal correctness proofs20:17
lkclbizarrely - as long as my intuition's on track - the actual modifications should be tiny.20:17
awygleso for #458, let's talk about what constitutes delivery briefly20:20
awyglemy plan is to take the descriptions of PartitionedSignal and your proposed modifications20:20
awygleconfirm that i agree that your proposed modifications are the best way to achieve the goal20:20
awyglewrite up an nmigen RFC around that20:20
lkcloh nice.20:21
awyglediscuss with whitequark whether she's comfortable making those changes to the core language at any point20:21
awygleand make those changes myself on a branch/fork20:21
lkclright, i just found this https://bugs.libre-soc.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38420:21
awygle(and test them etc etc)20:21
awyglewhitequark accepting the changes can't be part of delivery because i don't control that20:21
awygledoes that sound reasonable?20:21
lkclthat's a great plan20:21
lkclyehyeh20:21
awyglegreat20:22
lkclso *thinks* what am i calling this one... create RFC for nmigen dynamic partitioned signals support20:22
lkclif the discussion occurs on nmigen bugtracker that's absolutely fine as long as it's linked to https://bugs.libre-soc.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59420:26
awyglecopy20:28
lkclwe've EUR 5,000 available from the parent doc budget, lots else todo from that one, can't go mad, but let me know (after-the-fact) a reasonable amount you'd be happy with for doing the RFC, and i can fill in the budget for it20:31
lkcl(we can adjust it later, that's ok)20:31
awygleok, sounds good20:34
lkclmeeting 18 mins20:42
lkclcesar[m]1, ^20:42
lkclprogrammerjake[m, ^20:42
lkcllxo, ^20:42
programmerjake[mk20:43
lkcl(awygle this is with the OPF ISA WG.  we also have an informal one every tuesday, talk-about-anything, if you're interested)20:43
lxooh my.  here was I, afk, so sure that the meeting started at half past the hour that I didn't even check.  turned out it was the other meeting I had on Wednesdays that was at half past the hour.  sorry21:31

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