| ghostmansd[m] | binutils patches for opindex and isel got merged | 05:32 |
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| programmerjake | :) | 05:33 |
| *** kylel1 is now known as kylel | 07:12 | |
| lkcl | ghostmansd, yeah i got the cc messages | 08:18 |
| lkcl | yay! | 08:18 |
| midgardian[m] | lkcl what do you think of this comment: https://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=21386926&cid=62563886 | 08:33 |
| midgardian[m] | What do they mean by "chip layout software" is that like writing HDL for soft cores or is that the software used to take HDL and process it to make netlists/photomasks, I do not understand | 08:34 |
| lkcl | midgardian[m], coriolis2. | 08:35 |
| lkcl | and it's not completely accurate. Mentor is owned by a German company, and coriolis2 and hitas/yagle are maintained by LIP6 Lab, part of Sorbonne University | 08:36 |
| lkcl | it's *almost* true though. the problem is you need a three-way level of expertise, as Jean-Paul explains in one of his talks | 08:37 |
| lkcl | 1) mixed python/c++ | 08:37 |
| lkcl | 2) algorithmics | 08:37 |
| lkcl | 3) gates/signals/analog/digital/electronics | 08:38 |
| lkcl | the combination of those three extremely high-level knowledge/expertise areas is world-wide extremely rare | 08:38 |
| midgardian[m] | Huh what does Python and C++ have to do with it? | 08:43 |
| midgardian[m] | I never even heard of the projects you listed, shows how much I know hahaha | 08:44 |
| midgardian[m] | Where can I see Jean-Paul's talks? | 08:44 |
| midgardian[m] | are they public? | 08:44 |
| midgardian[m] | https://coriolis.lip6.fr/ | 08:52 |
| midgardian[m] | francais, tres bien | 08:52 |
| midgardian[m] | I understand 2) and 3) being important but would love clarity on 1) | 09:05 |
| lkcl | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0diiTc7_VI&list=PLBtNqZjUZB80uByfZVm0gGYEtmTG0mZzm&index=5 | 09:53 |
| lkcl | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0ATrAlNzWk | 09:53 |
| lkcl | https://fosdem.org/2022/schedule/event/coriolis2/ | 09:54 |
| lkcl | https://archive.fosdem.org/2021/schedule/event/alliance/ | 09:54 |
| lkcl | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN9AQgoVwDw | 09:55 |
| lkcl | https://www-soc.lip6.fr/equipe-cian/logiciels/tasyagle/ | 09:56 |
| midgardian[m] | lkcl you are so helpful with those links, merci! | 11:28 |
| *** kylel1 is now known as kylel | 12:08 | |
| ghostmansd | lkcl, I've submitted the assignment form, using the letter I submitted many years ago for gnulib as a template | 12:10 |
| ghostmansd | I think if there must be more details than it was for gnulib, they'll let me know | 12:11 |
| lkcl | midgardian[m], no problem. if you're considering building / using it, there's some one-liner instructions here https://libre-soc.org/HDL_workflow/coriolis2/ | 12:51 |
| lkcl | actually, two. first one: set up a chroot. second one: download-everything-and-build-it-in-the-chroot | 12:52 |
| lkcl | ghostmansd[m], ah brilliant. i did wonder | 12:56 |
| ghostmansd[m] | lkcl, yeah, I hope they'll be back soon | 13:29 |
| midgardian[m] | Why chroot?? | 20:25 |
| lkcl | have you ever tried constructing dohkhhaaah containers? | 20:41 |
| lkcl | i wasn't impressed with the hype when i heard about them: first and only time i tried was enough to tell me everything i needed to know | 20:42 |
| lkcl | it's not chroot, it's schroot | 20:42 |
| lkcl | which is much more sane, less "manual", and a hell of a lot less insane than dohkhhaah | 20:44 |
| midgardian[m] | hahahaha "dohkhhhaaaahh"?? | 20:56 |
| midgardian[m] | Docker?? :P | 20:57 |
| lkcl | yeh :) | 23:15 |
| lkcl | what really pissed me off was an upgrade to dohkkaaah adding a new command without also adding version information | 23:16 |
| lkcl | and *removing* an "older" command in a later one | 23:16 |
| lkcl | i installed version 15 or something, but the package scripts were for version 13 or 12 *only* | 23:17 |
| lkcl | had to investigate that, fix the problem, and then i had to downgrade to a different version of the service i was installing and had start all over a-f****g-gain | 23:18 |
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