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openpowerbot | [mattermost] <lkcl> https://libre-soc.org/openpower/sv/rfc/ls005/ | 14:12 |
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openpowerbot | [mattermost] <lkcl> i started RFC ls005 - it's real basic (1 page). | 14:12 |
openpowerbot | [mattermost] <lkcl> it's intended to be submitted as a... a... "radio-button-2", here https://openpower.foundation/isarfc/ | 14:13 |
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lkcl | https://science.slashdot.org/story/22/12/22/1314242/john-cleeses-classic-silly-walk-burns-more-calories-than-a-normal-gait-study-finds | 17:31 |
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bagiyal | everyone | 17:48 |
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programmerjake | lkcl: i expanded on the differences of fp16 vs bf16: https://git.libre-soc.org/?p=libreriscv.git;a=commitdiff;h=674ea72e5fb3aae98d97bd19c883e183b7d0f677 | 20:01 |
programmerjake | bf8 is e5m2 in https://arxiv.org/abs/2209.05433 -- they call it fp8 along with e4m3. that paper is by nvidia, intel, and arm: https://wccftech.com/nvidia-intel-arm-bet-their-ai-future-on-fp8-whitepaper-for-8-bit-fp-published/ | 20:05 |
lkcl | programmerjake, i'm attempting to keep the RFC to 1 page | 22:21 |
lkcl | things like that are really good for going into the "discussion" page | 22:23 |
programmerjake | ah, ok. i don't have my desktop unpacked so idk how many pages the pdf is, the footnote shouldn't be on page 2, that's just ikiwiki not understanding latex | 22:23 |
lkcl | it's on page 2 because the last line is migrated to page 2 | 22:24 |
lkcl | https://libre-soc.org/openpower/sv/rfc/ls005/discussion/ | 22:25 |
programmerjake | k, note the order shown by ikiwiki is not the order in the original markdown | 22:25 |
lkcl | correct. doesn't matter. the PDF as a submission to the OPF ISA WG is what matters. | 22:26 |
lkcl | i've recorded the links (and also discussion here) | 22:26 |
lkcl | keeping this one *real* brief is a priority, sparking discussion, and linking to the things that toshywoshy mentioned | 22:27 |
lkcl | which he can't talk about :) | 22:27 |
lkcl | but are definitely relevant | 22:27 |
lkcl | good links to wikipedia. makes things clear. | 22:28 |
lkcl | mmmm.... don't IBM use "bfloat16"? | 22:28 |
lkcl | we discussed this before for another RFC | 22:28 |
* lkcl ponders... | 22:28 | |
programmerjake | k, just trying to make sure you didn't mistake the incorrect ikiwiki rendering as meaning guaranteed-2-pages | 22:28 |
lkcl | not a priority. | 22:29 |
lkcl | ah yes, ls002. | 22:29 |
lkcl | https://libre-soc.org/openpower/sv/rfc/ls002/ | 22:29 |
lkcl | nggh have to retain consistency sigh | 22:29 |
* lkcl will update FP32 to BFP32 | 22:30 | |
programmerjake | feel free to replace bf16 with bfloat16, and fp8/16/32/64 with bfp8/16/32/64 | 22:30 |
programmerjake | imho having both bf16 and bfp16 is too confusing so should use bfloat16 if possible | 22:31 |
programmerjake | actually, leave fp8 as fp8, since it matches the intel, arm, nvidia paper | 22:32 |
programmerjake | and since it isn't ieee | 22:32 |
* lkcl brainmelting | 22:32 | |
programmerjake | sorry... | 22:32 |
lkcl | :) | 22:33 |
lkcl | i'm on semi-vague-holiday-shutdown :) | 22:33 |
programmerjake | i can do the search/replace | 22:34 |
lkcl | but figured it'd be sensible to (slowly, no pressure) do this before things restart next year | 22:34 |
lkcl | appreciated | 22:34 |
lkcl | remember the conversation with toshaan, he recommended getting this done... soon. | 22:35 |
programmerjake | so, did you push the last of your changes? | 22:35 |
programmerjake | rest* | 22:35 |
programmerjake | i'm assuming so | 22:36 |
lkcl | yes. | 22:36 |
lkcl | i'm looking to reduce lines further, but it's a different location | 22:37 |
lkcl | ok i'm stopping | 22:37 |
programmerjake | done: https://git.libre-soc.org/?p=libreriscv.git;a=commitdiff;h=5997033c3e258bc2c5c48f147abb1c4a10c2a21f | 22:49 |
programmerjake | sorry it's all 1 commit, too annoying to use the web interface for multiple commits when copying to/from my text editor | 22:50 |
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