Saturday, 2023-03-04

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lkcloctavius: read this https://libre-soc.org/openpower/sv/rfc/09:06
lkclsadoon[m], one reason i don't use complex WMs/GUIs.09:07
lkcli use a 30-year-old window manager - https://www.fvwm.org/09:08
sadoon[m]I mean the G5 will probably kill itself if I do run KDE on it09:16
sadoon[m]So I might go back to my good old xfce4 + dwm09:16
sadoon[m]Except this time it'll be lxqt + dwm09:16
sadoon[m]One side benefit of trying to get a G5 running (a personal project of mine) is that it'll help run libre-soc in BE09:18
sadoon[m]So I don't see it as wasted effort in any way09:18
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lkclahh much joy.  you could always try trinity-desktop12:20
lkclwhich is KDE 3.5 and is, duh, remarkably fast and functional12:20
lkclit runs happily in 128 mb of RAM12:20
lkclit's also a *lot* cleaner than the crap that became "plasma"12:21
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lkcland it was just before the EU funding that resulted in a f***-awful copy of the visually-worst version of windows ever created12:23
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sadoon[m]I'll see if it's available in gentoo12:46
sadoon[m]I'd like to switch to Wayland if possible though12:47
sadoon[m]And GNOME is out of the question yuck12:53
sadoon[m]Looks like the xfce guys are moving forward faster than expected to Wayland12:53
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sadoon[m]Anyways without qtwebengine I lose support to only a few applications that, while useful, aren't absolutely necessary like Kontact and Kmail13:01
sadoon[m]Shouldn't be too difficult to find alternatives or, God forbid, use evolution like I did before13:01
sadoon[m]Evolution is great until you find out its dependency hell13:02
sadoon[m]Claws mail caused a bunch of issues previously for me13:02
sadoon[m]Anyways the only reason I am boring you with these details is that they will be relevant once we start an actual sffs BE build, which I plan to do soon in parallel with the LE one13:07
sadoon[m]Do we give any priority to LE and BE 32-bit though? It'll be rough but doable13:08
sadoon[m]Might come in handy for embedded applications13:08
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sadoon[m]lkcl:13:08
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sadoon[m]Good news: firefox built with LTO on big endian G514:40
sadoon[m]bad news: it crashes xD14:53
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lkclsadoon[m], lol17:53
lkcl32-bit nobody's interested. which is bad because the executable and memory consumption can be alarmingly higher with 64-bit17:54
lkcland power consumption as well17:54
lkclARM cores power consumption jumped *fifteen percent* from the A53 to the A72.17:55
sadoon[m]Well, as long as we target embedded and only embedded, 32-bit will not cause any issues17:55
sadoon[m]I ran 32-bit ppc BE for a while to revive my G4, it really does work, but desktop apps are hit or miss. Anything else should be fine17:55
sadoon[m]It's your call :)17:56
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