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lkcl | octavius: read this https://libre-soc.org/openpower/sv/rfc/ | 09:06 |
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lkcl | sadoon[m], one reason i don't use complex WMs/GUIs. | 09:07 |
lkcl | i use a 30-year-old window manager - https://www.fvwm.org/ | 09:08 |
sadoon[m] | I mean the G5 will probably kill itself if I do run KDE on it | 09:16 |
sadoon[m] | So I might go back to my good old xfce4 + dwm | 09:16 |
sadoon[m] | Except this time it'll be lxqt + dwm | 09:16 |
sadoon[m] | One side benefit of trying to get a G5 running (a personal project of mine) is that it'll help run libre-soc in BE | 09:18 |
sadoon[m] | So I don't see it as wasted effort in any way | 09:18 |
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lkcl | ahh much joy. you could always try trinity-desktop | 12:20 |
lkcl | which is KDE 3.5 and is, duh, remarkably fast and functional | 12:20 |
lkcl | it runs happily in 128 mb of RAM | 12:20 |
lkcl | it's also a *lot* cleaner than the crap that became "plasma" | 12:21 |
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lkcl | and it was just before the EU funding that resulted in a f***-awful copy of the visually-worst version of windows ever created | 12:23 |
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sadoon[m] | I'll see if it's available in gentoo | 12:46 |
sadoon[m] | I'd like to switch to Wayland if possible though | 12:47 |
sadoon[m] | And GNOME is out of the question yuck | 12:53 |
sadoon[m] | Looks like the xfce guys are moving forward faster than expected to Wayland | 12:53 |
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sadoon[m] | Anyways without qtwebengine I lose support to only a few applications that, while useful, aren't absolutely necessary like Kontact and Kmail | 13:01 |
sadoon[m] | Shouldn't be too difficult to find alternatives or, God forbid, use evolution like I did before | 13:01 |
sadoon[m] | Evolution is great until you find out its dependency hell | 13:02 |
sadoon[m] | Claws mail caused a bunch of issues previously for me | 13:02 |
sadoon[m] | Anyways the only reason I am boring you with these details is that they will be relevant once we start an actual sffs BE build, which I plan to do soon in parallel with the LE one | 13:07 |
sadoon[m] | Do we give any priority to LE and BE 32-bit though? It'll be rough but doable | 13:08 |
sadoon[m] | Might come in handy for embedded applications | 13:08 |
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sadoon[m] | lkcl: | 13:08 |
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sadoon[m] | Good news: firefox built with LTO on big endian G5 | 14:40 |
sadoon[m] | bad news: it crashes xD | 14:53 |
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lkcl | sadoon[m], lol | 17:53 |
lkcl | 32-bit nobody's interested. which is bad because the executable and memory consumption can be alarmingly higher with 64-bit | 17:54 |
lkcl | and power consumption as well | 17:54 |
lkcl | ARM cores power consumption jumped *fifteen percent* from the A53 to the A72. | 17:55 |
sadoon[m] | Well, as long as we target embedded and only embedded, 32-bit will not cause any issues | 17:55 |
sadoon[m] | I ran 32-bit ppc BE for a while to revive my G4, it really does work, but desktop apps are hit or miss. Anything else should be fine | 17:55 |
sadoon[m] | It's your call :) | 17:56 |
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