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| programmerjake | apparently nearly everyone thinks the rust foundation messed up their draft trademark policy: https://old.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/12e7tdb/rust_trademark_policy_feedback_form/ | 06:56 |
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| programmerjake | one of the rust project members (BurntSushi) even said: "if it were up to me, in a vacuum, I would advise the Foundation to drop the trademark altogether" | 07:01 |
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| lkcl | yep it's a total draconian nightmare. it almost looks like it's a deliberate effort to undermine the success of rust | 09:37 |
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| programmerjake | well, they're getting enough pushback that I hope they realize they should have more relaxed rules, despite what their lawyers might say | 09:39 |
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| lkcl | lawyers are paid by the hour | 09:39 |
| lkcl | ==> complicated | 09:39 |
| lkcl | ==> more money | 09:39 |
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| programmerjake | true... | 09:40 |
| lkcl | they basically need to look at the ADA Certification Mark, and stop pissing about | 09:41 |
| programmerjake | maybe they should find some lawyers who put open source and rust's success ahead of piles of cash...maybe like SPI? | 09:42 |
| lkcl | a Certification Mark requires that in order to use/distribute a product, you must pass a Certification Compliance suite | 09:42 |
| lkcl | which happens in the case of software to be... the test suite! | 09:43 |
| lkcl | so it's brain-dead-f*****g-simple to write a Certification Mark License that says, "you can distribute this FOSS product as long as it passes (unmodified) the unit tests released by us" | 09:44 |
| programmerjake | that requires making a compliance suite -- afaict currently the tests are tied pretty closely to rustc which makes it difficult to use in non-rustc compilers | 09:44 |
| lkcl | then that's the distributor's problem to sort out. gcc-rs for example would be required to ensure that it passes the compliance test suite | 09:45 |
| programmerjake | do submit that idea in the feedback form...i'm assured they read them | 09:45 |
| lkcl | it's not difficult at all | 09:45 |
| lkcl | no fucking chance. | 09:46 |
| lkcl | i'm *really* not interested | 09:46 |
| programmerjake | even if it only takes 1min? | 09:46 |
| lkcl | i'm not playing their game, after the Mozilla Foundation wasted 3 weeks of my time last time i did significant work | 09:46 |
| lkcl | correct. | 09:47 |
| lkcl | i'm not spending *my* time - unpaid - to clean up their mess. | 09:47 |
| lkcl | it's called "abuse" | 09:47 |
| programmerjake | ok, i'll send them a link to this conversation at least... | 09:47 |
| lkcl | feel free | 09:48 |
| programmerjake | submitted | 09:59 |
| programmerjake | shared on reddit too, hope you don't mind: https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/12e7tdb/comment/jfjuvfo/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 | 10:13 |
| programmerjake | also, i'm curious why there's both a lkcl and lkcl_ user? did you lose access to the old one? | 10:14 |
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| sadoon[m] | Letter a built fine with a few exceptions :) | 17:44 |
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| lkcl | programmerjake, i couldn't remember the email address and recovery wasn't possible (doh) | 18:47 |
| lkcl | sadoon[m], yay! | 18:47 |
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