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sadoon[m] | In GMT+4 this week, might not stay long in the meeting tonight :) | 05:45 |
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sadoon[m] | How's everyone doing | 05:46 |
programmerjake | doing well! you visiting the UAE? | 05:48 |
sadoon[m] | Yes, for some time off and an uninteresting conference to add to my resume :p | 06:03 |
programmerjake | well, have fun! | 06:03 |
sadoon[m] | Thanks :D | 06:04 |
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markos | https://lunduke.substack.com/p/the-rust-foundation-goes-to-war-against | 12:25 |
markos | they're fucking idiots | 12:25 |
markos | if there ever was even a remote possibility of me turning to Rust as a new language to learn, this has just gone to zero | 12:27 |
markos | I'll stick to C/C++ | 12:27 |
lkcl | bryan lunduke is great. he totally gets absurdity and is happy to point it out | 13:48 |
lkcl | he did however miss that Trademark Licenses have to be (F)AIR (R)EASONABLE (A)nd (N)on-(D)ISCRIMINATORY | 14:15 |
lkcl | it should be blindingly-obvious to anyone with half a brain that the license is blatantly unreasonable | 14:16 |
lkcl | and by making themselves "God" for what *political* affiliations may be associated with it they are setting themselves up for a lawsuit | 14:17 |
lkcl | under potential "Discrimination" by allowing certain people with political or other affiliations the "right" to use the trademark, but not others | 14:21 |
lkcl | as usual with anything to do with the Mozilla Foundation they're out of their goddamn minds. again. | 14:22 |
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sadoon[m] | Unsurprising | 16:12 |
markos | it is actually quite surprising | 16:18 |
markos | all thing considered, Rust was doing quite well as a language | 16:18 |
markos | I mean it wouldn't be unreasonable to consider it becoming an actual alternative to C/C++ in the next 5 years, even for production use | 16:18 |
markos | they didn't need to do anything like that | 16:19 |
markos | instead they go and fuck it up for no apparent reason | 16:19 |
programmerjake | apparently that was intended as more of an initial review draft rather than a basically finished policy, so I expect the policy to drastically change | 17:16 |
programmerjake | see: https://foundation.rust-lang.org/news/rust-trademark-policy-draft-revision-next-steps/ | 17:24 |
openpowerbot_ | [irc] <bee[m]> Wow Rust Foundation is pushing politics hard in those quotes by lunduke. Feels a lot like Mozilla too. But the push of politics into software/hardware engineering spans well beyond Mozilla tbh. e.g. golang.org and pkg.go.dev had huge banners pushing exactly the same narratives. I'm quite surprised they got eventually removed. | 17:54 |
programmerjake | that's because they took the policy they inherited from mozilla, slightly modified it and published it as a first draft but forgot to state that so everyone understood it to be nearly final | 18:01 |
markos | sigh | 18:41 |
markos | slopy at best | 18:41 |
markos | they managed to get the world enraged for no good reason | 18:41 |
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octavius | I'll be 15 min late for the meeting today | 19:38 |
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