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| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Build time is reduced by over 95% when I use -j72 ;) | 06:19 |
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| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> So yeah depends on the system | 06:19 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> uhhhhh 13 seconds single thread hello_world on my Alder Lake laptop o_O | 08:18 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Looks like I'll be using my laptop more for this kind of stuff | 08:18 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> 11 seconds on 4 threads | 08:19 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> 9 seconds on 3 | 08:22 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> 8s to micropython on 3 | 08:26 |
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| octavius | Very impressive numbers | 10:18 |
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| markos_ | hey guys, I missed the meeting on Tuesday, what did I miss? | 10:54 |
| octavius | Sadoon/Luke/Toshaan talking about the SFFS building issues (as always software assuming VSX is present...) | 11:01 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Basically :) | 11:01 |
| octavius | I also was streaming microwatt simulation booting the linux kernel (only took 2 and a bit hours with THREADS=3 on i7 4th gen CPU) | 11:01 |
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| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Huh! That's good! | 11:04 |
| octavius | Luke mentioned issues with using Wishbone Bus, and why for future designs (Multi-Issue, Out-of-Order), we'll need to use something like AXI for the core/memory interconnect. AXI allows to check if a request (write or read) can be completed before actually committing to a request. Wishbone doesn't have such provisions | 11:04 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> So on my Alder Lake laptop it now took 1 hour to reach the 1.7 second mark with 3 threads as well | 11:05 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> I'm not sure how much longer it will take to reach the shell | 11:05 |
| octavius | What does it say at 1.7s? | 11:06 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> I'm travelling but I made sure to download everything I need, I don't connect to wifi while travelling (obvious reasons) and my carrier doesn't allow tethering on roaming | 11:06 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> I forgot but I'll let you know once I wake up the laptop | 11:06 |
| octavius | ah fair enough, have a good trip :) | 11:06 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Just arrived at the hotel | 11:06 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Thanks! | 11:06 |
| markos_ | octavius, oh that's cool, on the arty a7? | 11:15 |
| markos_ | oh, that's a software simulation | 11:17 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> <openpowerbot> "[irc] <octavius> What does it..." <- [1.719667] io scheduler mq-deadline registered | 11:22 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Exactly at 1h12m of runtime now | 11:22 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Putting it back to sleep, will continue later so I don't miss the moment it reaches shell | 11:23 |
| octavius | nice | 11:25 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Nvm staying at the hotel for a few it's going fast now | 11:29 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> We should consider using karg "quiet" to make it boot faster when testing binaries, I'll do that anyways :p | 11:30 |
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| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Nice to see the Intel scheduler for linux actually not being stupid and purposefully using unshared threads, one per core all on the P-cores | 11:46 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Perhaps an -march=native will also help out if that's not set already | 11:46 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> 1h32m in, line TERM=linux | 11:46 |
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| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> 1h55m login prompt | 12:12 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> That's worse than I expected but still very good | 12:12 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> There's about a second of delay typing characters which is also very good, expected much much worse | 12:14 |
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| lkcl | sadoon, fantastic! only one second is extremely responsive, it means you're getting echo back to /bin/busybox with only around... 10,000 instructions executed | 13:19 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Hey that's much better than the 5,000 you were talking about yesterday huh | 13:20 |
| lkcl | if busybox also includes chroot and/or pivot_root you can rebuild the cpio disk (remember my warning about paths being absolute) with debian (or gentoo) /bin/bash plus dynamic libraries in a subdirectory. | 13:20 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Maybe a low end but modern Intel machine can be fitted in my collection for these cases | 13:21 |
| lkcl | ok 5,000 / sec. you can count them by looking at the pc logs (also an option to the verilator program) | 13:21 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> This might unironically bring me back to my overclocking days | 13:21 |
| lkcl | if you only have the one machine available please don't | 13:21 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Nah this is a laptop | 13:22 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Running at 3.8ghz max | 13:22 |
| lkcl | not bad. | 13:22 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Imagine what a 5.5GHz machine with DDR5 7000 or whatever it was | 13:22 |
| lkcl | :) | 13:23 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> But anyways I'm hoping that simulation won't be a big part of what we need to do | 13:23 |
| lkcl | err duh :) | 13:23 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> I'd rather get it done on an FPGA and that at least to some degree appreciates extra threads | 13:23 |
| lkcl | although if snapshots *do* work then you can resume from known-good and save 2 hours | 13:23 |
| lkcl | BUT | 13:24 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Oh speaking of which, almost filled my SSD yes | 13:24 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> I noticed and deleted them | 13:24 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> (Kept the most recent 40 or so) | 13:24 |
| lkcl | the fact that it is an initramfs may make that impossible... *unless*... you reserve a *second* memory area and work out how to "mount that into memory" | 13:24 |
| lkcl | i did warn you! | 13:24 |
| lkcl | it is completely unnecessary. | 13:25 |
| lkcl | like... *really* unnecessary. | 13:25 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Yeah hehe | 13:25 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Anyways Luke I do have an important question before moving forward | 13:25 |
| lkcl | the only reason i was saving that frequently was because it was taking so long and i had an O(N^2) iterative investigation (where N was getting to *18 hours*) | 13:26 |
| lkcl | ya | 13:26 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Debian is mostly built, few failures of not so necessary stuff (systemd, not needed for chroot)... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/HfSholrEkMarFSbgkagYCRas>) | 13:27 |
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| lkcl | sadoon that's too long | 13:27 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Oh my bad | 13:27 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> IRC | 13:27 |
| lkcl | can you please re-type so that it does not trigger " (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/HfSholrEkMarFSbgkagYCRas>)" | 13:27 |
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| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Debian is mostly built, few failures of not so necessary stuff (systemd, not needed for chroot) | 13:27 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Gentoo is done And objdump testing works | 13:28 |
| lkcl | ok so where is the "reproducible build" script for debian? | 13:28 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> But as far as qemu goes I really don't think it'll be possible in a timely manner | 13:28 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> It'll be on the repos before September | 13:28 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> All of it | 13:28 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> I'm just worried about qemu | 13:28 |
| lkcl | no, you need to commit it _now_ | 13:28 |
| lkcl | don't be. | 13:28 |
| lkcl | if it is too much then it is too much | 13:29 |
| lkcl | please read the email i just sent. | 13:29 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> One sec | 13:29 |
| lkcl | you should never have under *any* circumstances been working "privately" | 13:29 |
| lkcl | i have raised this a number of times | 13:29 |
| lkcl | *everything* that you do has to be public, published, and available *at the time it is done*. | 13:29 |
| lkcl | no private notes "that you will publish later" | 13:29 |
| lkcl | no private repositories "that you will publish later" | 13:30 |
| lkcl | no private conversations "that you have to go through IRC or email and put into the bugtracker later after several days of searching" | 13:30 |
| lkcl | this is *extremely important* and i have asked several times | 13:31 |
| lkcl | "i'll publish it when it's finished" is a massive red flag and an extreme risk | 13:31 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Oh oh dw at all, not using github gitlab or even my own site | 13:31 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> didn't even use git yet, everything I did is basically already in attachments on the bugreport | 13:31 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> It's just that I need to put it together on the git repo for libre-soc | 13:32 |
| lkcl | toshywoshy did the NGI POINTER work, but did it privately. and hasn't published it, so you're now having to re-discover it and ask him once a week (tuesday) for hints | 13:32 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> For debian the whole thing is just the build script and the dpkg-buildflags, and finally the repo script which I am finishing | 13:33 |
| lkcl | then you should indeed have used git | 13:33 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> I already published what is finished | 13:33 |
| lkcl | and you should be committing that repo script and the build script *as you make modifications* | 13:33 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Yes I should have, sorry for that | 13:33 |
| lkcl | with commit messages saying "fixed this because of error Y" | 13:33 |
| lkcl | now if i ask you to remember what you did, can you reproduce it? | 13:33 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Luckily yes, but I understand your concern | 13:34 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> I'll commit everything tonight | 13:34 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Before working on anything else | 13:34 |
| lkcl | it is an "evidence trail" that the EU Auditor will want to see - they may not understand it but they are going to be extremely nervous about paying out EUR 5,000 for something that only has one commit and no evidence that it took EUR 5,000 worth of work to do it | 13:34 |
| lkcl | (which *NLnet* need the confidence to be able to explain and justify) | 13:35 |
| octavius | lkcl, are these scripts going to go into "dev-env-setup" repo, or will sadoon need a new repo on libre-soc.org? | 13:35 |
| lkcl | octavius, that's up to all of you to decide. | 13:35 |
| octavius | If a new one, then someone with permissions needs to create a blank repo and give sadoon permissions | 13:35 |
| lkcl | that'll be me. see the email i just sent, which explains the process. | 13:36 |
| octavius | Then let's make a new repo, not sure what a good name would be | 13:36 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> I prefer a separate repo so I can't mess anything up with dev-scripts, they're very essential | 13:36 |
| lkcl | (and is another thing to go on the list) | 13:36 |
| lkcl | sadoon, that's what branches are for | 13:36 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> In that case then yes it can be done in dev-scripts | 13:36 |
| lkcl | don't be nervous: if you are, get over it. you cannot do any "damage" unless you do something really stupid like a force-master push | 13:36 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> If you guys prefer | 13:37 |
| lkcl | yes because it is a developer script | 13:37 |
| lkcl | i'll add you to write perms | 13:37 |
| octavius | Ah perfect, sadoon, make sure to commit to https://git.libre-soc.org/?p=portage.git;a=summary | 13:37 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> So something like ./build-debian and ./build-gentoo which would automate it all eh? | 13:37 |
| octavius | yeah | 13:37 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Alright sounds good but I suspect it'll be multiple scripts | 13:38 |
| octavius | Don't worry about multiple scripts, as long as the process can be followed from start to finish | 13:38 |
| lkcl | sadoon, done. you can check with "ssh gitolite3@git.libre-soc.org" | 13:38 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Alright, then after that a wiki page of course | 13:38 |
| lkcl | octavius: it's down to sadoon to decide what he feels is the best way to manage what he is doing | 13:39 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> There was something I was getting to with the qemu thing | 13:39 |
| lkcl | each of us can advise but it is his responsibility | 13:39 |
| lkcl | qemu, yes | 13:39 |
| lkcl | as long as you have a *reasonable justification* because you did the investigation *and wrote up a report* | 13:40 |
| lkcl | (i.e. you actually *tried* to do EUR 2,500 worth of work, but the "trying" itself turned out to *be* EUR 2,500 worth of work) | 13:40 |
| lkcl | then that's "good enough" and we can apply for the next grant | 13:40 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> It'd be much easier for me to actually port microwatt to an intel FPGA so we get good performance and that would be perfect for testing and be a definitive answer to "is it really compliant with no VSX" | 13:40 |
| octavius | Make sure to add a new libre-soc wiki page documenting how to run the scripts, I'm guessing under the HDL_workflow. You can copy the format of the other tutorial pages (like microwatt) | 13:40 |
| lkcl | "port to an intel FPGA".... does that include the money required to get the FOSS-Intel-FPGA toolchain compiled | 13:41 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Yeah I spent weeks trying to get qemu to behave so I guess that's that | 13:41 |
| lkcl | and the dev-scripts written to automate the building of that FOSS intel FPGA toolchain? | 13:42 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Do we absolutely need a FOSS toolchain for testing this? | 13:42 |
| lkcl | so document what it was that you did | 13:42 |
| lkcl | and why it did not work | 13:42 |
| lkcl | ohhh yes. | 13:42 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Will do | 13:42 |
| lkcl | this is a LIBRE project not an OPEN project | 13:42 |
| lkcl | libre **MEANS** libre. | 13:42 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Unfortunately my libre FPGA still didn't arrive. Sigh | 13:43 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> I'll look into the libre options | 13:43 |
| lkcl | i only added arty-a7-100t to the list of FPGA boards when reports that nextpnr-xilinx was working. | 13:43 |
| octavius | lkcl, but does this requirement apply everywhere? ls180 asic was implemented in a TSMC library, but we have a libre equivalent using and different pdk | 13:43 |
| lkcl | digilent arty a7 100t plus 2 Quad HyperRAM PMODs from 1bitsquared.de | 13:43 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Maybe things have changed since.. November 2022 when I ordered the ULX | 13:43 |
| lkcl | octavius: ls180 was implemented *BY ME* using *FOSS* cell libraries | 13:44 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> openpowerbot: I'll order it no questions asked if it works | 13:44 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> dw about the costs I'd rather just get it working ASAP | 13:44 |
| lkcl | any coincidence of *LIP6* having happened to have replaced those *FOSS* cell libraries with *TSMC* cell libraries is entirely not my - our - concern | 13:45 |
| lkcl | they work. don't get the single PMOD by mistake | 13:45 |
| lkcl | and don't get the arty-35t by mistake either | 13:45 |
| lkcl | it's *specifically* | 13:45 |
| octavius | Ah ok, makes sense | 13:45 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Perfect | 13:45 |
| lkcl | Arty-A7-100t | 13:46 |
| lkcl | QTY2of 1bitsquared Quad HyperRAMs | 13:46 |
| lkcl | they're on the wiki somewhere | 13:46 |
| lkcl | https://bugs.libre-soc.org/show_bug.cgi?id=774#c0 | 13:46 |
| lkcl | 256 megabit. you may have to use the US 1bitsquared site | 13:47 |
| octavius | Sadly both EU and US stores are sold out of HyperRAM | 13:48 |
| octavius | That's why we had the conversation about ordering PCBAs | 13:49 |
| lkcl | damnit we may have to do that | 13:49 |
| lkcl | https://www.google.com/search?q=1bitsquared+quad+hyperram | 13:49 |
| markos_ | would it not be worth doing the time investment to get the ddr3 working on the fpgas? | 13:49 |
| octavius | Shall I start thinking about that? We could probably get an affordable PCBA to do it | 13:50 |
| lkcl | damnit https://www.tindie.com/products/picolemon/hyperram-pmod/ | 13:50 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Is ddr3 gonna benefit us when the core will probably run at 50mhz? | 13:51 |
| lkcl | markos_, remember what i said about it being "really complicated"? | 13:52 |
| lkcl | i spent *three months* on gram and associated firmware | 13:52 |
| markos_ | that's why I said "invest" | 13:52 |
| lkcl | it got so bad i had to stop it, do hyperram instead (which was 2 weeks flat, to 100% working) | 13:53 |
| lkcl | and then assigned tplaten to attempt to solve it. | 13:53 |
| markos_ | it's not something that's easy, but it's something that will be needed eventually | 13:53 |
| lkcl | eighteen *months* later he has not been able to complete it | 13:53 |
| markos_ | it's definitely doable, litex guys seem to have done it | 13:54 |
| lkcl | it needs one person - a proper FPGA/dev/board-bringup/low-level engineer - to focus on it and nothing else | 13:54 |
| markos_ | maybe we're missing something | 13:54 |
| markos_ | yes | 13:54 |
| lkcl | no: they managed to botch it up and hack it together in such a way that the *only people* who can understand it is themselves | 13:54 |
| lkcl | which guarantees that they get further contract work at very high rates | 13:55 |
| markos_ | you just described half the foss projects out there :) | 13:55 |
| markos_ | anyway | 13:55 |
| lkcl | the gate/LUT efficiency of what they've written is... extremely poor. | 13:55 |
| markos_ | I don't disagree with the pmods solution, but it's a temporary solution | 13:55 |
| lkcl | this is a well-known fact btw | 13:56 |
| markos_ | esp if you go the route of a more powerful fpga board | 13:56 |
| lkcl | that if i do not state "it is a well-known fact" the fuckers will attempt to make YET ANOTHER formal complaint to the OpenPOWER Foundation | 13:56 |
| markos_ | I don't folow | 13:56 |
| lkcl | so if you are a litex developer reading this: fuck off and don't you ever do that again when you know damn fucking well that the quality of your work is not up to scratch | 13:57 |
| lkcl | i made "public statements" three years ago about the quality of litex - which everyone *privately* knew | 13:57 |
| lkcl | and one of the developers of litex made a formal complaint about it to the OpenPOWER Foundation. | 13:58 |
| lkcl | david had to get involved. | 13:58 |
| lkcl | it was one of the many many attacks on this project that i haven't told you about in detail. | 13:58 |
| lkcl | anyway. | 13:59 |
| lkcl | i need to go out in the sun. | 13:59 |
| * lkcl later | 13:59 | |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Bye! | 14:00 |
| markos_ | lkcl, sorry about your trouble with litex, but that's not my point, even the worse project might have/use a trick that might point to a solution in another problem/project | 14:03 |
| markos_ | tbh, I don't care about politics, if it's foss it's visible to everyone and quality of code is apparent to everyone that cares. People can judge by themselves. My point is that if they're doing it, we can do it too. | 14:07 |
| lkcl | markos_, gram is a port of litex dram. | 15:05 |
| lkcl | (to nmigen) | 15:05 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Ok finally got internet working by changing carriers temporarily and paying extra.. eh | 15:20 |
| markos_ | understood, ok, in any case, just saying we might want to invest some extra time in this, in parallel to the hyperram pmods, which we have to buy anyways | 15:20 |
| markos_ | also, bad news, the nexys video, out of the 4-pmod connectors, one is for analog signals only | 15:24 |
| markos_ | so only 3 can be used for hyperram pmods, I don't know if there is a single pmod for hyperram | 15:25 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> lkcl sent you an email with my ssh key for the git repos | 15:35 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> nvm, stupid email issues.. probably gmail not liking something | 15:36 |
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| lkcl | sadoon: you already have. | 17:16 |
| lkcl | ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EA.....bzaFAzjB6aflOQSq9t3Yc= sadoon@HaswellS7Devuan | 17:17 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Ah, I still have it back at home I suppose, but not on this laptop | 17:21 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Since I'm going to be away for almost a week it'd be better to replace it so I can actually commit while I'm on this short vacation | 17:22 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> And then I'd just keep using the new one | 17:22 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <programmerjake> just add your laptop key, don't replace it...you can have more than 1 ssh key | 17:23 |
| lkcl | i'm not going to replace it, i'll add a second one | 17:23 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> another option yeah | 17:23 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <programmerjake> unless your old one was compromised somehow? | 17:23 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Nah | 17:23 |
| lkcl | no i don't have it. please drop it here inline. | 17:24 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> It's just my old laptop which I still have | 17:25 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Just not on me now | 17:25 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> I'll send the pubkey in this chat later since email is having some issues ugh | 17:25 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <programmerjake> or if you're never going to use your old laptop to commit, in which case removing the old ssh key is a good idea | 17:25 |
| lkcl | btw sadoon@soulserv.xyz is storing messages for you and *not* informing you that you are no longer using it | 17:25 |
| lkcl | you have several messages sent to you now that you've not responded to | 17:26 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> It's still mine | 17:26 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> I don't plan to remove it anytime soon for that reason specifically | 17:26 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> I don't want it to be used maliciously | 17:26 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <programmerjake> i'm assuming you're referring to email and not ssh key? | 17:27 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Yes the email but also true for the ssh key | 17:27 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> They're all still with me guys ,:) | 17:28 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Gotta go afk for a while, ttyl | 17:28 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <programmerjake> ttyl | 17:29 |
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| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> lkcl this is my ssh pubkey | 18:22 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> ssh-rsa | 18:22 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> ega8jZdg6nWX4XwDaNwURu1zIovl7UCAR2vCEois6SOqVAejpXZIJv2l5P+/LCtgeVtSvFc3l2qZIoHzSQpQOatoTlTX6WOgdBcjSE= sadoon@SwiftUnity | 18:22 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAADAQABAAABgQCgf+Tsrcigx4wJWpoXyYh2nRYKrAVJVA4nozaqdvR7UHYuKgdopY1w8P1UE3GSsLAn6byzPLy8zlUEDmQlTDwSJIJcIINyPYxPNdniKHbUbisiT2FyObx+SX83EayDFIxeOcsiy9hVy27SxopBYPZ/fFGFX99iKSRywi6HSUwPvOvcfD43k1BVLhNtT56DRc6fmrpoc32as5R2Y4uHkoHj6vSNFaeRGwjFO+i0QjLbrvl8LDw72NHOLz0db5kXvVsX2B0vJw4miD4ccotFI6Z/te8P+fRp3KqgVBrgxibg9rVLrsSx/FN8aZSc/L4bgOrnro80UQKwetwU5uNyWiquQ4wmSAxL+Ekctp5m0jJBQfAeFJpIrnfaxWhEVi | 18:22 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> If I have any more email issues it's basically out of my control, I set up everything I could but some things are managed by my ISP unfortunately.. | 18:23 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> In which case I'll just switch to my protonmail account but I hope it won't be necessary | 18:23 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <programmerjake> since irclog or the matrix bridge reordered the parts of the ssh key, here it is again: | 18:30 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <programmerjake> echo -n ssh-rsa\ AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAADAQABAAABgQCgf+Tsrcigx4 # idx=0 | 18:30 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <programmerjake> echo -n wJWpoXyYh2nRYKrAVJVA4nozaqdvR7UHYuKgdopY1w8P1UE3GS # idx=50 | 18:30 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <programmerjake> echo -n sLAn6byzPLy8zlUEDmQlTDwSJIJcIINyPYxPNdniKHbUbisiT2 # idx=100 | 18:30 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <programmerjake> echo -n FyObx+SX83EayDFIxeOcsiy9hVy27SxopBYPZ/fFGFX99iKSRy # idx=150 | 18:30 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <programmerjake> echo -n wi6HSUwPvOvcfD43k1BVLhNtT56DRc6fmrpoc32as5R2Y4uHko # idx=200 | 18:30 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <programmerjake> echo -n Hj6vSNFaeRGwjFO+i0QjLbrvl8LDw72NHOLz0db5kXvVsX2B0v # idx=250 | 18:31 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <programmerjake> echo -n Jw4miD4ccotFI6Z/te8P+fRp3KqgVBrgxibg9rVLrsSx/FN8aZ # idx=300 | 18:31 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <programmerjake> echo -n Sc/L4bgOrnro80UQKwetwU5uNyWiquQ4wmSAxL+Ekctp5m0jJB # idx=350 | 18:31 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <programmerjake> echo -n QfAeFJpIrnfaxWhEViZ4zp5ZvavOLj3osoX/7EMdxyyaCjjsEe # idx=400 | 18:31 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <programmerjake> echo -n ga8jZdg6nWX4XwDaNwURu1zIovl7UCAR2vCEois6SOqVAejpXZ # idx=450 | 18:31 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <programmerjake> echo -n IJv2l5P+/LCtgeVtSvFc3l2qZIoHzSQpQOatoTlTX6WOgdBcjS # idx=500 | 18:31 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <programmerjake> echo -n $'E= sadoon@SwiftUnity\n' # idx=550 | 18:31 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <programmerjake> sort by idx | 18:31 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Oh boy, let me just upload this to my site and share the link | 18:32 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Just in case | 18:32 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> https://albader.co/id_rsa.pub | 18:34 |
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| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Debian sffs guide is complete, scripts coming soon possibly by end of next week https://libre-soc.org/HDL_workflow/debian-sffs | 18:47 |
| octavius | Brilliant! Thanks for updating us Sadoon. I like the draft wiki page, didn't realise you actually need a POWER system (but now makes sense) | 19:00 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> I mostly reused stuff from the microwatt guide because it was quite good :) | 19:01 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> You could cross compile and then run in qemu user mode as a chroot but it's very tedious and can break things | 19:02 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Which is why Debian's policy is to not to do that ever | 19:02 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> But you don't need a GUI at all so using the POWER server you guys have is going to absolutely be enough if you want to try it | 19:02 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Gentoo SFFS wiki page is also ready https://libre-soc.org/HDL_workflow/gentoo-sffs | 19:18 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> It's so much easier than debian it makes me sad | 19:18 |
| octavius | " POWER server you guys have" ah yes, I keep forgetting about it | 19:32 |
| octavius | Would be nice to go through that flow | 19:32 |
| octavius | I ran Gentoo a few times, and I'm still fond of the idea of having all the source code on your system | 19:33 |
| octavius | And customise the build flags to your exact setup | 19:33 |
| octavius | But for interoperability, not so much | 19:33 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> I plan to keep the source code as well as the binaries on the tarball just to solve that problem | 19:40 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Meaning the software will never change until we decide | 19:40 |
| openpowerbot | [irc] <sadoon[m]1> Software versions* | 19:41 |
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| octavius | Ah nice | 21:37 |
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