| lkcl | programmerjake, you don't need me to do it. | 00:05 |
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| programmerjake | k, i figured i should ask you cuz you complained about changing budget before | 00:06 |
| lkcl | that was because ghostmansd[m], bless 'im, wasn't running budget-sync and damaged the database in the process, out of inexperience | 00:07 |
| lkcl | you have (a) much more experience and (b) run budget-sync because you know it's absolutely critical to do so. | 00:08 |
| programmerjake | uuh, i was referring to before then | 00:09 |
| lkcl | when we had a non-live-running project (MoU not signed yet) i gave ghostmansd[m] the opportunity to write the MoU - including doing the budgets - so as to get that experience | 00:09 |
| lkcl | (and confidence) | 00:09 |
| lkcl | well, as long as you follow that process | 00:10 |
| lkcl | "i'm planning to make change XYZ is it ok" | 00:10 |
| lkcl | "i'm in the process of making change XYZ" | 00:10 |
| lkcl | "i've made change XYZ please review" | 00:10 |
| lkcl | then it's fine | 00:11 |
| lkcl | keep communicating with me in that way - in project-leader-role - and it's fine | 00:12 |
| programmerjake | k | 00:12 |
| lkcl | whatever you do don't make *any* assumptions that i "might have seen the email" | 00:12 |
| lkcl | (such as the ones that just went by) | 00:13 |
| lkcl | it is your responsibility to *check* with me and get an acknowledgement that i *have* in fact seen (and reviewed) the changes | 00:13 |
| programmerjake | i have generally assumed it's fine to add bugs with zero budget figuring you can move them later if you don't like where i picked | 00:13 |
| lkcl | yes | 00:13 |
| lkcl | it is | 00:13 |
| lkcl | but when you make changes, they are so absolutely critical that even though you save time (for me) by making the changes | 00:14 |
| lkcl | you cannot and must not make *any* assumptions that i have reviewed them | 00:14 |
| lkcl | because the consequences are so disastrous for the project | 00:14 |
| lkcl | because i am the signatory on the MoU | 00:14 |
| lkcl | so in delegating the job to you, part of my responsibility is to make damn sure we follow strict "comms" protocols | 00:15 |
| lkcl | i've noticed the emails, so this time you don't need to notify me that the changes have been made | 00:15 |
| lkcl | please stay online on IRC whilst i review them. | 00:16 |
| lkcl | i am now informing you that i am about to review the changes | 00:16 |
| programmerjake | k | 00:16 |
| lkcl | ok so 1041 has zero budget and is no longer attached to any milestone. nor has a parent allocation. | 00:17 |
| programmerjake | made one more change so budget-sync stops complaining | 00:18 |
| lkcl | and 972 looks like it has had the exact same budget assigned to it, moved to OPF-Milestone 2202-08-071, and... ah yes, just refreshing: budget "jacob=1000" | 00:18 |
| lkcl | aside from anything, what i am doing here is making sure that in the IRC channel there is a record of a review | 00:19 |
| lkcl | https://libre-soc.org/task_db/report/ | 00:19 |
| lkcl | NLnet.2022-08-107.ongoing 961 | 00:19 |
| lkcl | bug # 972 | | budget 1000 s,p 0 | 00:20 |
| lkcl | and likewise on your page | 00:20 |
| lkcl | https://libre-soc.org/task_db/mdwn/programmerjake/ | 00:20 |
| lkcl | ok i'm happy with that. | 00:20 |
| programmerjake | :) | 00:21 |
| lkcl | i actually go through that process every time, but i don't normally vocalise/IRC-describe it (!) | 00:21 |
| lkcl | i did a conf-call with both michiel and joost 2 years ago where they reviewed a couple of Schedule A docs | 00:22 |
| lkcl | they both went completely quiet and read in silence, it was quite unnerving! | 00:23 |
| lkcl | this was for each milestone task! | 00:23 |
| lkcl | the attention they pay is astonishingly high | 00:23 |
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| markos | oh man, convolution matrices are going to be so easy with SVP64... | 11:12 |
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| markos | what time is the meeting today? | 19:35 |
| markos | or less confusing, how long from now? | 19:35 |
| programmerjake | 23min from now | 20:37 |
| gnucode | sorry to leave the meeting so early and abruptly. Technically I am not supposed to be on my phone at work. I think I risked being on the phone for as long as I can. | 21:55 |
| gnucode | Thanks for the tips! | 21:56 |
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